In an interview with SteelOrbis, major longs producer Gerdau has commented on
the world steel market situation and what they find appropriate as ways to
overcome weak demand.
Paulo Perlott Ramos, Marketing and Sales Director, and Murilo Osorio, General
Manager of Gerdau International Trade, one of the biggest steel producers in the
world, have shared with SteelOrbis their opinions about the situation the world
steel market is in today. Mr. Ramos speaks about the risk of producing in excess
of demand, of reducing prices and the damage this may cause to all steel
producers and eventually to consumers. He draws attention to the fact that
exports should be complementary to domestic production and not competitive with
it.
Can we have your opinion on what the world steel market looks like
today and what has been discussed during the SteelOrbis Spring 2010 Conference
& 62nd Irepas meeting?
Our opinion at Gerdau is not so different than what others think. The main
concern is that there is overcapacity. It is obvious that there is a certain
imbalance between supply and demand. We think that there are a lot of producers
who think they can increase their sales if they reduce their prices. We do not
believe this is the right approach because steel consuming projects are not
decided based upon steel product prices, i.e., demand which is not present in
the market cannot be activated by reducing prices as nobody wil decide to
consume more rebars just because prices drop by $10-20/mt, or even by $100/mt.
This is not useful to any party. Both producers and consumers will feel this is
not a good solution in a few months. This is the main concern nowadays.
So you think the main issue is today is that steel production
worldwide needs to be brought down to levels closer to those of
demand?
In particular, demand in Europe is depressed. Everybody in Europe is
worried about the situation and the crisis is now affecting consumption levels
seriously. But no matter how much you reduce your price, if the demand is not
there, it is not there. We need to remain calm and wait for better moments.
Reducing production or allocating it in different ways could be a solution in
the meantime, before pushing prices further down.
How is demand performing in Brazil? And what is your export
strategy?
In general, the Brazilian market is recovering consistently in production and
demand levels, as opposed to the situation in Europe or other countries . In the
context of the Americas, Brazil is also quite good and pretty stable nowadays,
but there is steel overcapacity and apparent consumption per capita is still
lower than others countries located in the same region. Perhaps some markets are
indicating a comparatively weaker performance, like the US market which is not
in as good a condition as Brazil, but it is improving day by day. Also there are
some countries in South America suffering liquidty problems. Different countries
are facing different levels of consumption. However, speaking specifically for
Brazil, we can say that consumption levels are better and that we hold good
perspectives as regards the markets lately. But we would like to underline the
fact that we have our production capacity in Brazil and some new investments are
being made. There are new producers that recently commissioned new capacities in
the country, adding to the country's total production capacity. This means that
Brazil is capable of supplying all its own requirements via domestic production.
Therefore we do not need to import.
We are also trying to control our levels of exports. We are only exporting to
some neighbouring countries in order to supply their specific requirements and
are not trying to put material around the world. All producers in Brazil are
controlling their production levels, aiming to avoid contributing to the
overcapacity problem in global terms.
What are Gerdau's export markets and what is your approach to exports
in general?
Gerdau has production facilities not only in Brazil but in fourteen
countries. These countries are mainly in the Americas, and we have a different
supply/demand balance in each country. As we have mentioned above, our
facilities in general are operating at 75-80% capacity.
In fact our main production capacities address the domestic market in Brazil
and we mainly focus on exporting with the aim of supplying our group companies'
requirements abroad. This means that a major part of our export volumes are
destined to our sister companies such as those in Argentina and others, with the
purpose of supporting them to complete their product lines.
The main quantity in exports from Brazil goes to Brazilian groups outside of
Brazil. Gerdau exports mainly to its sister companies, which are Brazilian
companies located outside of Brazil.
We are exerting all our efforts to avoid spoiling price levels and our
endeavors are aimed at maintaining our prices.
In view of more active demand compared to the rest of the world, are
you facing import competition in Brazil?
Some other producers are trying to introduce material into Brazil. Of course
Brazil is an open market and everybody can try to sell here. But on the other
hand, we have very strong relations with our customers and we have our capacity,
quality, and customer loyalty. And we will have to compete with the imports. The
only problem is that if Brazil receives more import material than required, we
will then have to export our products to other markets. This means we might have
to increase our current export volumes. We do not believe it would be good for
the entire market in global terms. We believe exports should be complementary
to and not competitive with local production.
Have imports to Brazil increased in the post-crisis period or has
import pricing become more competitive?
No, import quantities are more or less at the same level for now. And
speaking for prices, we too had to adjust our prices looking at raw materials at
a certain stage.
However, nowadays, the iron ore price is increasing and even scrap saw some
increases back in April; however, product prices continue to drop and this
divergence does not make much sense. We believe that we should at least maintain
our price levels and margins.
In terms of raw materials, do you think Brazil has any strategic cost
advantages?
No, what we pay for iron ore is the internationally applicable price. The
only advantage we have is maybe in freight, but not the price itself. It should
also be taken into account that other costs involved in production such as
energy costs, interest rates and taxes are very high in Brazil.
Do you have any investments in raw material sourcing for your own
production?
Yes, we have already made some investments in iron ore mining and today we
are sourcing about fifty percent of our iron ore requirements from our own
mines. In addition to iron ore mining, we also set up a scrap collection
facility in Brazil which is also providing us with support in terms of raw
material supplies.
For the next quarter, and maybe the second half of the year, what
will be your production and sales strategies?
We are following the domestic market which is quite stable in Brazil right
now. Speaking for our strategies in the international markets, we will follow
the trends. We are trying not to allocate too much material for export as it is
not our main concern to export big volumes. In short, we prefer to focus on
supplying our domestic market initially and, depending on where the market is
heading to, we will decide what to allocate for export.
Do you ever consider adding new export markets to your current
portfolios?
We believe countries in Europe and Turkey have sufficient supplies of long
products in their own domestic markets and, therefore, they do not need to
receive material from Brazil. But, as we have already mentioned, if they begin
sending material to Brazil, we will eventually have to enter those markets as
well, even though we prefer not to do so.
Gerdau is the leader in the production of long steels in the Americas and
one of the largest suppliers of long specialty steels in the world. It has an
industrial presence in 14 countries, with operations in the Americas, Europe and
Asia, which total an installed capacity of over 25 million tons of steel. It is
the largest recycler in Latin America and it transforms millions of tons of
scrap into steel yearly worldwide. With more than 140 thousand shareholders, the
publicly traded companies of Gerdau are listed on the stock exchanges of Sao
Paulo, New York, Toronto, Madrid and Lima.